4.30.2009

I'm canceling my whole conversations project. I'm sorry I've nagged you all about this and probably put you in a weird position. It doesn't seem to be going well.

I hope next time we can communicate these things better.

Also, everyone who wants to do this rhizome thing give me two bucks and we'll choose an image. Four squares is $20, I'll pay for the thing using my checking account, and the difference, lets just do it. If you guys want to do this stock market thing with the money we made from the zines come up with a good plan for its execution. Otherwise, I (and a few other people) think this idea is incredibly impractical and the money could be better spent elsewhere.

Also, I suggest we meet very soon. Just because people have such strong feelings about the stock project and whatnot judging by all of the posts.

12 comments:

nickpeelor said...

this is stupid.

Max Guy said...

we can do both things just don't use the zine money for the rhizome thing. its cheap enough that everyone in the collective, or just the people who want to do it can pay like 2 bucks and we're all good.

nickpeelor said...

we agreed to do this conversation thing i don't understand why you feel like you can cancel it on a whim. Everyone was okay with the idea. This isnt a fucking monarchy; Carey and i were planning on doing ours today.

Max Guy said...

i know all that, but even after we agreed to do it i've been getting some strong opposition to the idea, since i think only one group has actually done the conversation and they don't even want their conversation being shown, it just makes more sense to drop it and focus on what everyone is really concerned with, the whole rhizome and stock market thing.

Emily said...

let's meet tonight to talk. I know I'm not going out tonight, I've gotta work, but I could set aside some time to meet. I think it's really important.

Neil Sanzgiri said...

max, the only reason no one has done theirs yet is because we're in the middle of finals.

there should be no real reason today is the deadline. we have the entire summer for many many projects. this just isnt a good time. i was really really looking forward to not only reading everyone conversations but also having mine.

the people who do not wish to participate in this project shouldnt have to, and the ones who want to continue to do so should be free to do this project even if it was your idea.

thats the point of bringing this project to the collective - so that each person can choose whether to participate or not. when you propose an idea to the collective it become the collective's project i believe, not a individual's property.



THIS IS ALL IMO

Neil Sanzgiri said...

P.S. MEETING TONIGHT?

Ben Horns said...

Neil -

If only a few people want to participate in this project it doesn't really seem like a collective project anymore.

Carey Chiaia said...

We all did agree to do this project as a group. No, we haven't been good about deadlines, but when are we ever good about deadlines? If the majority of the group doesn't want to do this, then we shouldn't do it, but that's something we need to decide together, not unilaterally. Nick and I are doing our conversation today. If we ALL decide to do the project, then we'll use it, if not, then we won't.

We're all stressed out and busy as hell but lets not let that get in the way of being friends and being productive. If things can't get done by the deadlines than that's the way it is. If time and deadlines aren't the issue, then lets talk about it.

Things have been pretty heated lately and I think it would be good to have a meeting just to iron everything out. I'm sending a text out right now.

nickpeelor said...

yo. One love. Carey is right. I love all of you. No hate. People are super stressed and tightly wound right now. I love you guys. Lets not fight

Peggy Chiang said...

i agree, nick. let's not fight. marx. though i must say that it also doesn't seem like a collective project if one person can just decide to call it off. we already agreed to commit to this. if people don't want to do it, then they don't have to. and i thought it would be interesting to do, even if it doesn't really turn into a project.

nickpeelor said...

8 30 is not a good time for meeting. That video show is at 9 and i have to be there. Sorry. earlier would be better, or i can not come too. whatevs